{"id":44,"date":"2002-10-17T01:52:34","date_gmt":"2002-10-17T06:52:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.alevin.com\/?p=44"},"modified":"2002-10-17T01:52:34","modified_gmt":"2002-10-17T06:52:34","slug":"austin-blog-meetup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/?p=44","title":{"rendered":"Austin Blog Meetup"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Went to the Austin Blog <a href=\"http:\/\/www.meetup.com\">MeetUp<\/a> tonight. It was good to meet fellow bloggers; <a href=\"hestia.blogspot.com\">Kathryn<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crossroads.net\">Adam Rice<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.io.com\/~riddle\">Prentiss Riddle<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.davidnunez.com\">David Nunez.<\/a><br \/>\nThere were several interesting conversational threads&#8230;.<br \/>\n* On blogging and personal disclosure. We talked about <a href=\"http:\/\/diveintomark.org\">Mark Pilgrim&#8217;s<\/a><br \/>\nmoving blog-published story of addiction and recovery, which got him<br \/>\nfired from one job and hired at the next, and about Kathryn&#8217;s experience<br \/>\nwith friends who reacted very badly to blog entries causing a conflict<br \/>\nthat hasn&#8217;t yet been resolved.<br \/>\nAs for my thoughts on the topic: I am not much of an exhibitionist. Part<br \/>\nof this is wimpiness; I don&#8217;t want to write things that I wouldn&#8217;t want<br \/>\npotential employers to read. Part of it is concern for you, the reader;<br \/>\nmy private fears, worries and doubts are compelling to me, but I don&#8217;t<br \/>\nimagine they would be interesting to anyone I don&#8217;t know in real life.<br \/>\nPart of it is a desire for security: it feels safer to share personal<br \/>\nstories, in person, with people I know well and trust.<br \/>\n* On maintaining social norms in online community. There seems to be a<br \/>\ncontinuum  starting with small discussion groups where people use their<br \/>\nown names, in which people maintain face-to-face social norms; to larger<br \/>\nmailing lists, where people sometimes flame, but social norms can keep<br \/>\nmisbehavior in check; to large forums that use automated tools to help<br \/>\nimplement social norms (SlashDot moderation); to large, anonomyous<br \/>\nforums which devolve into incoherent hostility (Usenet, Yahoo messages).<br \/>\n* On blogging and community. We talked about using comments and log<br \/>\nreports to get a sense of feedback from blogging, and brainstormed a<br \/>\ncouple ideas to increase blog-related community. It would be wildly cool<br \/>\nto be able to aggregate blog comments into a distributed threaded<br \/>\ndiscussion. I was thinking about how to implement this last weekend; and<br \/>\nfound that that the MoveableType crew is working on it. It should be<br \/>\nsome combination of talkback and RSS syndication\/aggregation. That way,<br \/>\npeople who happened to be reading the same book at the same time could<br \/>\nshare a conversation. Prentiss suggested a sort of LivePerson IM for<br \/>\nblogs; where a reader could click a &#8220;talk to the blogger&#8221; button and<br \/>\nchat. That would need to be implemented with IM-style controls:<br \/>\ninvitations to indicate to readers when the blogger was available, and<br \/>\n&#8220;keep out&#8221; features to repel antisocial visitors, so that a &#8220;hey baby<br \/>\nwanna&#8221; visitor would go away instantly and permanently.<br \/>\n* On Moveable Type and CSS. Adam kindly explained some subtleties of<br \/>\nabout using CSS elegantly to support the structure of your information.<br \/>\nI spent last weekend learning basic CSS, and plan to spend some time<br \/>\nthis weekend playing with MoveableType, the better to categorize the<br \/>\nblog for people who are interested in some topics much more than others.<br \/>\n* On MeetUp. The revenue model for MeetUp is to make referral fees from<br \/>\nthe venues where people meet; so MeetUp suggests a ballot of places to<br \/>\nmeet, and visitors vote.  This time round, MeetUp suggested a Starbucks,<br \/>\na bowling alley, and a video arcade. Not as bad a ballot as &#8220;Saddam<br \/>\nHussein&#8221;, or &#8220;slow, painful death from torture&#8221;, but still not great.<br \/>\nTwo venues wholly unsuitable for the group, and a chain coffeeshop in a<br \/>\ncity with plenty of fine independents. Hopefully, MeetUp will accept<br \/>\nsuggestions for independent businesses.<br \/>\nDespite the flaws in the venue selection, it was a good and useful<br \/>\nservice; helped people find each other based on a common interest, and<br \/>\nautomated some of the labor-intensive aspects of organizing a meeting,<br \/>\nlike sending out reminders, with location, address and phone number.<br \/>\nWhat with the dot.com bust, people downplay the internet; but there are<br \/>\nplenty of ways still that the internet provides helpful new tools for<br \/>\npeople to connect and the interenet.<br \/>\nAnd a couple of reflections on the meeting.<br \/>\n* You know you&#8217;ve been in Austin too long when the weather is perfectly<br \/>\npleasant (mid-60s), yet you go out underdressed.<br \/>\n* MeetUps need colored table tents to attract people who don&#8217;t know each<br \/>\nother. Prentiss and Kathryn, and Adam and I met separately, and we<br \/>\ndidn&#8217;t meet each other until David Nunez showed up, whom I recognized<br \/>\nfrom EFF Austin.<br \/>\n* I know better than to have caffeine at 9pm. It was cold outside, and they<br \/>\nwere out of decaf, so I ordered a chai latte for the warmth, and it&#8217;s 2am now.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Went to the Austin Blog MeetUp tonight. It was good to meet fellow bloggers; Kathryn, Adam Rice, Prentiss Riddle, David Nunez. There were several interesting conversational threads&#8230;. * On blogging and personal disclosure. We talked about Mark Pilgrim&#8217;s moving blog-published story of addiction and recovery, which got him fired from one job and hired at &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/?p=44\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Austin Blog Meetup&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blogging"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/prDRq-I","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=44"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=44"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=44"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.alevin.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=44"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}